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Kiltie is 26. How young should he be replaced by? Absolute nonsense.

This isn't a dispute over "a small piece of land", Bazil, but your attempt to deflect is unsurprising. So let's get back to the point: This thread is about Kibble employees who are directors of St.Mirren Football Club being accused of not acting in the best interests of the club and the shareholders. This is about accusations of a lack of openness and transparency when an application for a £2.65 million grant has the name of the St.Mirren charity as a joint applicant with the Kibble while the charity knew nothing about it. Furthermore, according to AW, the two Kibble employees did not declare their plans to build on St. Mirren owned land to St Mirren SMISA board members. At the club's AGM it was stated to the shareholders that the land concerned was not St.Mirren owned land. AW claims otherwise and, if he's right, the implication is that shareholders were lied to. Smisa members and our supporters need to know what is going on at board room level and these accusations need to be answered openly and honestly.

So maybe, just maybe, the last great club that fell on it's arse was just a few miles up the road who's fans never asked enough questions.....other than being a SMiSA member and having a few original shares, pre-SMiSA, I have no real skin in the game but, f**k me, to not at least ask questions is bat-shit crazy. I love the fact that we are top six and maybe heading for Europe (I've done all that before right enough) but would swap all of that for survival, we nearly lost all of that before. I'm not for a second suggesting that that's where we are but to not ask questions, especially when we are apparently fan owned, is beyond due diligence. I don't know AW personally but I've been around the club for a long time and don't believe he'd do anything deliberately to harm St Mirren. The "nothing to see here" argument falls on it's fat arse every time and everything, in good business, is challenged every time....it's why it works. Let it play out and hopefully the truth will out.

Indeed. The negative comments on this thread about Dunne in particular are bonkers He’s a decent left sided central defender who we got on the cheap after his injury problems at Motherwell. I just don’t get what some fans are expecting! As you say, let’s see who replaces him. I can remember us signing left sided central defenders like Ronnie McQuilter…..

Just to be clear and I'm pretty sure you'll be aware of this: There is a difference between the Smisa board and the club board Furthermore, neither served on the club board at the same time as the other. Sorry if I'm being pedantic 😁😁

I'd maybe call it unbelievable Stmirren fans muster to raise the funds to buy their club and appoint a Rangers and Celtic fan onto to the board of directors with a veto, Agatha Christie couldn't make that one up What's next Kibble Motorhome discovered under collapsed dome

If you hear beeping it's me in reverse gear regarding the Kibble or to be more precise the two representatives of the Kibble. What I've found out tonight has astonished me in not a good way. Not just that I believe they should not continue being directors of SMFC, I believe the trustees of the Kibble should ask them some pertinent questions. Basil, it definitely isn't a wee bit of land. It's by my calculation 20% of the land owned by SMFC. [emoji44]

Kiltie is a class player IMO. Hopefully with us for many years to come

Kiltie and Flynn should have been replaced with younger players with a bit of pace

You are right, AW is giving just one side of a story. His. The allegations made are not trivial & shouldn't/can't be brushed under the carpet. starting with getting The Kibble' side of the story

@Jimmy H are you up that weekend? 🤣

Met him a few times in Dublin when he was Reading manager. A really nice guy. He would come over regularly to check the progress of Reading loan players at St Patricks Athletic, and would always have a chat with supporters in the pub beside the ground afterwards.

What mess is the club in? Off the park we are seeing record crowds, players sold for cash, other sellable assets, income from a league position we haven't met in over 30 years and potential income from European football. SMISA have over £1 million worth of assets saved up, which is going almost nowhere but to the betterment of our football club. There can't be many clubs in the UK that have had such a quick turnaround in fortune from disappointing annual accounts. If our biggest moan is a dispute over a small piece of land, between the Kibble and a former board member, I'm a happy man.

As did I, and I still can't see the logic behind them buying shares rather than a commercial arrangement but here we are.

35 goals from 31 games for the Machine in the top league. 22 years old, frightening The only good thing is he doesn't have the class of the City midfield when playing for Norway. 51 goals in total SO FAR.

Congratulations on what is, in my opinion, yet another meaningful post with some valid points. Well said. p.s. My understanding is that Kibble's agreement means that they are allowed two directors on the board whereas Smisa are allowed four

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/paisley-daily-express/20150316/281852937049491

Found this, not what Wilbur was exactly looking for but found it quite interesting. https://prideofanglia.com/tmwmtt/details.php?id=1295

I dont really have anything to add to this topic now, I will wait and watch how things develop, I simply hope if AW has a smoking gun we see it soon for the good of the club and similarly if there I'd no gun then he enjoys his retirement and enjoys the games as a fan nothing else. My final point is a repeat of my first post, my votes are John and Stuart, I like what they say and stand for. And to declare bias I know John very slightly and Stuart even less than that 😁

Being suggested that this is an opportunity to remove troops from Ukraine to protect the 'Motherland' from the imperialist forces of the decadent west instead of facing up to it appearing that they can't win in Ukriane.

I just wish all the BOD were pro -St Mirren fans regardless if they work for Kibble or not, since we are doing ok on the pitch.

Or a teenager?

It looked like a packet of cheap fireworks has been let off, similar to our embarrassment of a display at the last game at Love St [emoji3]

Yes, I hear you but, for the record, I'm not advocating that you (or any Smisa member) vote for any particular candidate - that's a completely separate issue. The purpose of my original post was to highlight/publicise what I perceive to be a hugely controversial issue. I admit that my gut instinct tells me AW would not make such an accusation without having solid evidence - he's not a stupid man - but I'm sure all will be revealed in the very near future. Time will tell.

A board with SG and AW on it ,have we not been here before?

https://www.stmirren.com/all-news/4930-ryan-flynn-contract-extended-for-2023-24-season St Mirren Football Club can confirm Ryan Flynn has triggered an extension clause in his contract and will remain at the club for the 2023/24 season. [emoji122]🫶[emoji16]

You don't think our reputation matters? That's up to you but thankfully it is in the hands of football professionals who know how the game works. If Jay wins the cup for ICT (I cant believe that people are treating that as a possibility purely as a premise for tough-guy posturing and acting like a c**t) then we will possibly be looking at a bigger chance of a fee, utlimately? This is getting a bit like Harry Enfield's self-righteous brothers, "Oi 'enderson, I admire your silky skills on the field, but if you woz to screw up our euro conference chances by virtue of one of the most unlikely cup-final results in history then I would say NO! Get back to Payzlee and watch it on Viaplay like the rest of us.

Sorry, also meant to say re the bolded bit above….. Boo Hoo. Sentimental claptrap.

Agreed. Some on here saying "aw how could we dae that to the poor wee laddie". Feckum I say. If he knocked back our contract offer he can hing as he graws. The question would be whether we can block him or not if it wasn't already in the loan agreement? Of maybe the agreement expires at the end of the league season?

Kibble will probably just say that this was an “administrative error”. Sweep sweep. Nothing to see here.

Saw Brian play for Arsenal against Saints at Love St in 1981. We played the game as both teams been knocked out the cup at the first round we competed at. We had lost 2-0 to Dumbarton. Two future Saints signings lined up for Dumbarton that day. Graeme Sinclair and Brian Gallagher. Arsenal had been knocked out by Everton. They had appeared in the last 3 FA Cup finals against Ipswich, Man Utd and West Ham so it was amazing to see them play in Paisley. The Saints squad was fantastic back in those days. Brian had a lot of issues with alcohol throughout his playing and managerial career but is now over 8 years sober. He has talked a great deal about his journey to help others. Good appointment by Hibs given his knowledge and experience in football.

So that would mean if smisa/stmirren shareholders voted to remove kibble and buy out their shares kibble could veto it, I Did and voted against it

That shows some ambition. Some on here would have thought he'd be heading for Real Madrid.

Because they wanted one and Gordon wanted his cash and no one else was capable of seeing through it.

He's DONE a brilliant job until now, it was a no brainer to give him the gig. As for Goodwins appointment, alls well that ends well, for us.

I'd be interested to hear Kibble's pov. They've not offered much in the way of transparency